Dan asked:

The moment an egg becomes fertilized is it a human being?


Trent Horn replied:

"From my view of what’s taught in embryology that the moment after fertilization, what we call a fertilized egg, the more precise term would be a zygote. At that moment you have a human organism who is the size of one cell, and so at that moment you have a unique, living, whole human organism developing towards a path of adulthood. And that very small human being all it needs to grow and develop is, what you and I need which is food, nutrition, time and a proper place or environment. In this case the uterus ..."


Dan asked:

Does that zygote have civil rights in your view?


Trent Horn replied:

"I believe that all human beings have basic rights and chief among them would be the right to life ..."


Dan asked:

Would you say that having an abortion is taking an innocent human life?


Trent Horn replied:

"Typically abortion is the direct termination of an innocent human life ..."


Dan asked:

Is it murder?


Trent Horn replied:

"What I’ll say is, from a moral perspective abortion is homicide. And I would say it’s unjust homicide. And if you use the term informally I guess murder would apply. But I would say unequivocally abortion is homicide. It’s the direct killing of a human being. It’s currently legal but I believe it should be illegal."


Dan asked:

We have the legality of the civil rights of the mother. Does she have any dominion over this child in the womb as opposed to outside?


Trent Horn replied:

"The legality of abortion doesn’t rest on the mother’s dominion over her body. In fact in Roe vs. Wade, they examined this argument that a woman has an absolute right to do what she wants with her body. The court essentially threw that out and didn’t recognize a woman has some kind of unlimited dominion over her body. That kind of argument of because a person owns a place and therefore they have the right to do whatever they want it just doesn’t follow.

For example, in the nineteenth century there was this court case called North Carolina vs. Jesse Black. What the courts ruled in this case ... was that a husband could beat his wife ... as long as he didn’t leave a permanent mark because he owned his home and everything in it, including his wife. Now, I think we all know today that’s barbaric. A man can’t own his wife like property because she’s a human being. Even if she lives in his home. So likewise I would say if the unborn child is a human being, and even if they live inside the mother’s body, the mother can’t own that child because a human being can’t own another human being, and so she has no right to dismember that child and the father has no right to coerce her or to have that child dismembered ...

Can you give me a good reason to think the unborn is not a human being that doesn’t have that right? And if you can’t then I think they should be protected under the law.”


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Catholic Answers, "Why are you Pro-Choice?" (San Diego: Catholic Answers, 2013)

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Show air date: August 23, 2013

Name of show: Why are you Pro-Choice?

Guest comments by: Trent Horn

Question appeared in show: 17:10


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