David asked:

Can 2nd Peter 1 verse 9 be used as support for the possibility of the loss of salvation?


Fr. Sebastian Walshe replied:

" 'For he that hath not these things with him, is blind, and groping, having forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.' That's the passage there ... When you read that and you hear about old sins and having been purged from his old sins, someone might read that and say, oh well that means that once we've been purged we're always going to be purged.

But then the very next line says this, 'Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.' That's a fascinating thing. Right away Saint Peter says you have to work. That by good works you can make your calling elect, make it more firm. If we're saved once and always then it makes no sense to say that we'd actually make our calling and our election more sure by good works, that doesn't make any sense ...

This is one of the very best passages to refute the idea that once saved always saved. If you look at the beginning of the first half of the epistle of Saint Jude, he's talking about all these different people or groups that thought they were once saved and always saved ... They were in a position of firmness and then they lost their position of election. Let me read to you this passage, a few verses of it.

'Dearly beloved, taking all care to write unto you concerning your common salvation, I was under a necessity to write unto you: to beseech you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.' We're talking about the faith that's been delivered. 'For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the only sovereign Ruler, and our Lord Jesus Christ. I will therefore admonish you, though ye once knew all things, that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, did afterwards destroy them that believed not:'

Right there. And then he talks about the angels and Sodom and Gomorrah. So the whole point there is just because you've received the faith now that now you don't have to fight for it. It doesn't make any sense that you have to contend earnestly for the faith if once you have it, you can never lose it. And once you're saved you're always saved."


Source material:

2nd Peter 1
9 For he that hath not these things with him, is blind, and groping, having forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.

Jude 1
3 Dearly beloved, taking all care to write unto you concerning your common salvation, I was under a necessity to write unto you: to beseech you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints. 4 For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the only sovereign Ruler, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore admonish you, though ye once knew all things, that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, did afterwards destroy them that believed not:


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Douay Rheims 1899 American Edition

Catholic Answers, "The Catholic Epistles" (San Diego: Catholic Answers, 2013)

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Show air date: November 8, 2013

Name of show: The Catholic epistles

Guest comments by: Fr. Sebastian Walshe

Question appeared in show: 27:30


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